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PostPosted: Tue 26 May 2009 13:02 
71-70 011 - Bucuresti Nord - Venetia


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Vagon DWA modernizat 61 53 71-70 010-0 in R346(BucN-WienWbf):


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Pe site-ul www.grivita.ro sunt date caracteristicile acestui tip de vagon: 71-70. Printre altele, se mentioneaza. Citez:

Grivita wrote:
- Instalatia electroacustica: conform UIC 568
- Instalatie sonorizare: UIC 558

La ce este nevoie de instalatie de sonorizare într-un vagon de dormit?

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- montarea unei instalatii de aer conditionat în întregime automata, de tipul cu un canal, conf. UIC 553, cu freon ecologic de tip R134a



La ce este nevoie de aer conditionat cand toti medicii recomanda ca, pe durata somnului, aparatele de AC sa fie oprite?


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În Poza făcută de Alexxxxx:

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Se poate vedea un grilaj dedesubtul ferestrei. Acolo e instalatia de incalzire? ÃŽn mod normal, nu instalatia de aer conditionat trebuie sa asigure si incalzirea? Este, totusi, un vagon 70-91, nu o vechitura de 59-50


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Dedesubtul ferestrei este grila AC, iar mai jos spre podea este grila de incalzire.


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OAB wrote:
La ce este nevoie de aer conditionat cand toti medicii recomanda ca, pe durata somnului, aparatele de AC sa fie oprite?


Pai... atunci cand geamurile nu se deschid si sunt 45 de grade in compartiment... ce faci? Stai si transpiri o noapte ca ai auzit ca nu e recomandat ACul noaptea?


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Dr2005 wrote:
Pai... atunci cand geamurile nu se deschid si sunt 45 de grade in compartiment... ce faci? Stai si transpiri o noapte ca ai auzit ca nu e recomandat ACul noaptea?


Intr-o anumita masura ai dreptate. Desi, la un 70-91 este de neconceput ca ferestrele sa nu se poata deschide. Daca era un 60-41 sau un 59-50 era de inteles; acolo puteau fi probleme de acest gen.


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nu stiu daca ai mers prea mult cu vagonul de dormit, eu am mers. Si intern si pe international este aceiasi problema: nu se poate dormi cu geamul deschis din cauza zgomotului.
Pot sa-ti confirm ca fara aer conditionat e absolut criminal. Am venit o data de la Istanbul la VD, a fost aer conditionat pana la granita la noi, era suportabil. De la noi mecanicul n-a mai considerat necesar AC-ul (locomotiva era un GM), si, cum era restrictie pe linie, pe portiuni mari, de 15 la ora (acum vreo 2 veri parca), am facut de la Giurgiu la Bucuresti vreo 4h. Nu-ti doresc sa induri sauna aia, deschisul geamurilor n-a avut nici un efect. Asa ca ma doare undeva de recomandarea medicului...


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noua clasa 70-91. Finisaje foarte bune inauntru, parea foarte confortabil, viteza maxima 160.


Cum se justifică numărul 91? 91 nu indică o viteză maximă admisă de 200 km/h?


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Pai... este un vagon de 200 km/h.


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61 53 71-70 014-2 in R371:


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Vagon MU 50 53 71-31 016-8 pe 3.09.2009 in R698 (grupa de la Resita Sud a lui R696):


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In Bulgaria , there are moving a few types of romanian sleeping cars.The first type is couchette "AcBcmee" - maybe this type has a mised first and second class compartments.
Picture 1;
Picture 2;
Picture 3 - destination plate.
This type of sleeping car is moving in composition of EC trains 462 and 463 from Athenes to Budapest K. and the romanian sleeping cars have a destination Athenes - Bucuresti N.

The second type romanian sleeping car is "WLABmee" , moving in several destination:
- Thessaloniki - Bucuresti N. - it looks like this:
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- Sofia - Moscow - the sleeping car has a destination Sofia - Bucuresti N.:
Picture 1;
Picture 2.
Sometimes , the sleeping car looks in this way:
Picture 1;
Picture 2.
- Istanbul - Budapest K.The sleeping car has a destiantion Istanbul Sirk. - Bucuresti N:
Picture 1;
Picture 2.
The red type:
Picture 1;
Picture 2 - in composition of EC "Transbalkan".

At the last time , it`s been appeared a new romanian sleeping car (maybe modernizied in factory ASTRA - Arad) with an automatic doors and air condition , moving in composition of EC train from Athenes to Budapest.I don`t take a photos of this car yet.Maybe you can tell me something about it.

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VESO_BG wrote:
At the last time , it`s been appeared a new romanian sleeping car (maybe modernizied in factory ASTRA - Arad) with an automatic doors and air condition , moving in composition of EC train from Athenes to Budapest.I don`t take a photos of this car yet.Maybe you can tell me something about it.


Probably a 71-70 car (you can see one a few posts above)... it was modernized by S.C. Atelierele C.F.R. Grivita S.A. Bucharest.


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PostPosted: Fri 09 Oct 2009 23:42 
61 53 70-91 003-1


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61 53 40-70 004-1


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Codul literal e identic cu 40-31: AcBcmee. De asemenea, sunt prezente ferestre duble (probabil, cele de la clasa I) E un frate al lui 40-31 apt să circule cu 160?


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RobertC wrote:
Sa aruncam o privire asupra vagonul 75-71 005 si pe partea cu cabinele. Vagonul detine 17 !!!! cabine cu cate doua paturi.


Sunt, de fapt, 15 cabine (doar de aia ii zice 75-71). Restul geamurilor sunt de la bai si cabina insotitorului.


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OAB wrote:
La ce este nevoie de instalatie de sonorizare într-un vagon de dormit?

Asa zic normele UIC.

Sa vedem vagoane mai vechi, abandonate in Revizia Bucuresti Basarab, in zona ,,rece":

51 53 61-50 009-1
51 53 61-50 010-9
51 53 70-50 016-4


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