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RoTram
PostPosted: Thu 06 Nov 2008 10:25 
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Numar vechi Numar nou
50531617281-4 50531605001-0 (vag "a")
50532617282-0 50532605002-6 (vag "c")
50532617283-8 50532605003-4 (vag "d")
50532617284-6 50532605004-2 (vag "b")


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PostPosted: Thu 06 Nov 2008 13:24 
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Dr2005 wrote:
-TE-urile modernizate la Remar Pascani (ca acolo le vor face, licitatia e doar de ochii lumii... deja exista prototipul)



Ceea ce nu stie lumea (sau doar isi exprima o parere) este ca aceste "prototipuri" se fac pe banii companiilor respective. Nimeni nu opreste o companie sa execute un prototip si sa se prezinte la licitatie. Macar "de ochii lumii" sa arati cat de mare capital ai. In Romania REMAR S.A. este "specializata" pe "double-decker". Cine ati dori sa castige licitatia, DB ?
Sunt foarte multi bani investiti in TE 001 si care vor fi recuperati mai tarziu. Sa nu uitam ca sunt putine companii in Romania capabile sa investeasca sumele necesare modernizarilor vagoanelor etajate. REMAR S.A. e singura care are succes cu acest tip de vagon.
Si o sa vedeti in curand TE 002 diferit de TE 001 si 31 16 cel nou.
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RoTram
 Post subject: Quick quiz!
PostPosted: Thu 06 Nov 2008 13:38 
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Stiti de ce TE 001 are cromatica aceasta la exterior?

Raspuns: Pentru ca proprietarul lui e REMAR. Dupa ce va fi cumparat de CFR, acesta poate sa pastreze sau nu aceste culori.
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Trole Man
 Post subject: Re: Quick quiz!
PostPosted: Thu 06 Nov 2008 19:02 
RoTram wrote:
Stiti de ce TE 001 are cromatica aceasta la exterior?

Raspuns: Pentru ca proprietarul lui e REMAR. Dupa ce va fi cumparat de CFR, acesta poate sa pastreze sau nu aceste culori.


Eghghhhh! Wrong answer!

TE-ul nu are cum sa fie al Remarului pentru ca SNTFC-ul nu l-a vandut niciodata. Licitatia e pentru modernizare nu pentru achizitie.

Cat despre vagoanele rosu - alb sunt vestitele 26-47 de la Roman fabricate de IVA . Observati forma geamurile de la nivelul superior. Se observa si denumirea firmei proprietare inscriptionata pe ele.
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Dr2005
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Bun... deci SNTFC a dat spre modernizare o garnitura TE, iar daca Remar nu primeste banii pe munca efectuata, ramane cu garnitura si o vinde cui va vrea sa o cumpere (imi si inchipui locomotiva 43-0014 a RegioTrans cu TE001 dupa ea pe Constanta - Brasov).

Am si eu cateva intrebari legate de vagoanele 26-47 modernizate:
-Ce numere au avut? Ce numere au acum?
-In ce an au fost fabricate?
-Ce fel de boghiuri au (in poza par a fi Minden-Deutz, ceea ce mi se pare cel putin interesant) si ce modificari au fost aduse lor?
-Ce anume a fost modificat la aceste vagoane fata de versiunea nemodernizata?
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Dr2005
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Sa vedem vagonul 50 53 16-17 397-8 TE100a, inclusiv ,,zone" mai putin vizitate din el, precum buda:


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Dr2005
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Sa vedem si garnitura TE115:

50 53 16-17 457-0 TE 115a


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Dr2005
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Vagonul b:

50 53 26-17 460-2 TE115 b


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Dr2005
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Vagonul c:

50 53 26-17 458-6 TE115 c


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Dr2005
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Vagonul d:

50 53 26-17 459-4 TE115d


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Trole Man
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PostPosted: Thu 29 Jan 2009 00:59 
Brassovia wrote:
Conform unui articol din presa, in noiembrie 1973, la Brasov si-au facut aparitia "primele vagoane etajate, cu 346 locuri".[...]

Se pare ca zece ani mai tarziu aratau inca la fel de bine.


Link sursa (pe la mijlocul paginii).


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Dr2005
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Vagonul 50 53 16-17 485-3 din garnitura TE 117:


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Dr2005
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Sa vedem garnitura TE 25, doar cu vagoane de clasa a 2a:

50 53 26-17 097-2 TE25a
50 53 26-17 098-0 TE25c
50 53 26-17 099-8 TE25d
50 53 26-17 100-4 TE25b


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RobertC
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Apr 2009 11:42 
Pe 1 aprilie am ramas foarte uimit sa vad in Gara de Nord un TE atasat personalului 5013 de Buzau!!!!
Uitandu-ma ulterior la data ultimei revizii, am observat ca fusese cu o zi inainte la Rosiori de Vede.
Deci trenul a fost adus in Bucuresti de la Rosiori, si apoi a fost trimis cu acest personal pana la statia lui de domiciliu (Ploiesti Sud).
Oriucum m-a mirat faptul ca inca se mai repara / vopsesc aceste garnituri si nu ajung direct la Pascani.

Sa vedem si ganitura in cauza: TE 113.


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Silviu
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TE-urile din Cluj Napoca, zac si astazi intr-o stare deplorabila, in fata fostei gari mici! De ce naiba sunt abandonate acolo?

16-17 273-1
TE 69 a


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Silviu
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Silviu
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Silviu
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Silviu
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Silviu
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Silviu
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Silviu
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Silviu
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Silviu
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